This is an awesome saddle for its age! Sadly, it is too wide in the gullet for my new horse. The front gullet measures from felt dot to dot 6" as I had it widened for my old horse. At the rear, the gullet measures just over 4". Flap as measured from the bottom of the stirrup bar is 16.5". It has the Y girthing system. The previous owner had a name plate on the back, so there are two small holes there. There is slight fading on the top of the cantle and slight creasing in the seat. The stitching on the very bottom of the flap is worn. It's serial number reads 4112H0303. I had new billets done last fall. I cleaned and conditioned it regularly. The tree is adjustable by a qualified saddle. Please ask any questions as I don't do returns and can't let it out on trial. If I accept an offer, there will be a shipping charge of $60 added on.