Used Circle Y Park and Trail in nice condition with silver conchos and leather seat. 15" seat, gullet measures 6.5" from concho to concho, on the inside. From what I understand this is a SQHB, with good flare out to allow shoulder movement. Leather is supple and soft, very comfortable saddle. Some normal wear and tear but nothing major- see pics for details. Comes with leather tie straps, matching leather stirrups. I'll throw in a 34" Weaver Smart Cinch. UPS shipping includes insurance.