Saddle measures as a 16.5" if using Bob Marshall measurements, but 17" if measuring as a normal western saddle (back of pommel to cantle). Bridle and pulling collar brand new and match saddle beautifully. Saddle has been used but not abused and is in very good shape, rigging is excellent, it is all suede so very secure. I'm also including a homemade fleece seat saver and a 30" Professionals Choice VenTech girth, both lightly used. Bridle and breastcollar fit my very large 16+ hand paint horse, unfortunately the saddle is to long for his back (he is VERY short coupled, overall length of saddle 26"). Saddle has fit every other horse I've tried on, from wide to high withered. Saddle has what I believe are the original stirrups (came with saddle when I bought it used). I normally ride a 15" saddle but with this seat cushion this saddle was roomy but not too big (lots of padding in seat saver, otherwise saddle is too big for me). Fleece underside of saddle in good condition with no tears.