This is a very dark beautiful brown (not actually black) Syd Hill Super Drafter Poley 15" saddle, measured Australian, not western. It is in wonderful condition and will last a lifetime. It has normal scratches and wear, and one poley has some nicks. I am including EZ ride stirrups and merino sheepskin stirrup leather covers over English leathers. Also included is a brand new fleece and felt pad. If you would rather have Aussie stirrups I can change them out. The saddle weighs 25 pounds including leathers and stirrups. This is a gorgeous, SUPER comfortable saddle!! Please blow up my front photo to true size using your own ruler as comparison. Then you can hold up a withers tracing and compare. This is not a saddle for a wide quarter horse. It needs withers and is perfect for a short back. **after listing I realized that one of the plastic pieces for the ez ride cages broke. They could probably be fixed. I will include BOTH these stirrups and Australian stirrups or give a discount if desired instead of adding the Aussie stirrups.